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[chipson78 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close chipson78]

mama, mama. aproape dizgratios. s-a intamplat exact lucrul de care ma temeam cel mai mult...... macar de un singru lucru sunt bucuros: portbagajul e aproape identic cu cel de la generatia veche
pentru cei care vor sa-mi cumpere civicul din dotare, pretul pentru anul asta e 20.000 euro. incepand de la anul va creste......

[gabrielb Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close gabrielb]

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[gabrielb Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close gabrielb]

Drive test superb pe ecranul unui Imac 27 full HD

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xl2...me-du-nom_auto

[LeviMar Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close LeviMar]

TypeR in 5 usi :P
Im minutul 4:36 al clipului se intampla ceva ciudat cu asfaltul...

[gabrielb Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close gabrielb]

Da curios,la nemti puteti deja sa va configurati masina interior exterior!
http://www.honda-civic.de/

[Delphi Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Delphi]

Vad ca unii deja ii canta parastasu' noului Civic si nici macar nu a iesit pe poarta fabricii prima masina la vanzare.

Eu respect orice parere, iar cand vine vorba de design, opiniile au un pronuntat caracter subiectiv si nu ar trebui comentate.
Ce se merita a fi comentate insa sunt socotintele unora care gasesc foarte mari asemanari intre consola centrala a noului Civic si Golf, Octavia, Focus si "ce mai vreti voi".
DAR, dupa parerea mea, acest model a trecut in cealalta extrema, adica nu se adreseaza decat generatiei tinere si foarte tinere. Eu nu-l vedeam "dandu-se jos" din Civic gen. VIII pe un domn (sau doamna) trecut de 45 de ani. Bineinteles ca exceptiile exista, dar acestea, pentru mine, nu fac decat sa confirme regula. Desi mi se parea mai frumos 5D-ul decat sedanul, eu am ales sedanul pentru ca era mult mai "cuminte" si mai elegant.

Cu generatia a IX-a consider ca au mai "imblanzit" look-ul science-fiction al Civicului (atat in interior, cat si exterior) si acum se adreseaza mai multor categorii de varsta si/sau mai multor gusturi. Este o parere personala care sper sa fie dovedita si de statistici/vanzari in viitor.

+1 la parerea lui maruta.

Man, ia-o prin comparatie cu modelul actual, sau ma rog, "vechi" de acum. Comenzile climei nu sunt identice(evident ca nu aveau cum sa fie 100% la fel) dar le-au pus unde le pun toti! "Vechiul" are controlul climei exact in dreapta volanului(foarte! bine asezat dpmdv), iar temperatura pasagerului se regleaza de pe usa.

Toata consola a primit o asezare clasica, cum au toate compactele de piata, aeratoare sus, sistem audio navi dedesupt, apoi clima. Ecranul de navi la gen VIII este muuutl mai bine amplasat, exact in vederea periferica a soferului.

IAr, schimbatorul de viteze este foarte apropiat, nu inteleg unde vezi tu diferenta aia uriasa, e la fel de lung si are aceeasi forma generala. Din nou, e absolut evident ca nu putea sa fie absolut identic.

1. Man, eu am facut vreo doua ore naveta astazi intre o Skoda Octavia, un Ford Mondeo (Focus nu aveam in parcare) si computerul cu pozele de pe forum, sa vad cat de mult seamana Civicul 2012 si schimbatorul lui de viteze cu cel de pe celelalte marci, pana cand erau sefii sa ma dea afara, pe motiv ca "as fi tras ceva pe nas". Pana la urma nu vad nici o asemanare, daca nu luam in seama faptul ca pana la urma urmelor toate schimbatoarele de viteza seamana intre ele, si sunt in fond un bat cu o maciulie in cap si cu o fusta de piele, sau de vinil, la baza. Din punctul asta de vedere, toate seamana intre ele.

2. Si daca ar semana - eu nu vad vreo asemanare, darsa presupunem ca seamana - care ar fi problema? Tu cand conduci, te uiti la schimbator si il admiri cat de deosebit este fata de alte marci? Eu, de obiceim uit inainte, in stanga, in dreapta si in spate, la bizonii din trafic. Te uiti la suportul pe care iti odihnesti piciorul stang? Scuze, eu nu, de obicei in timp ce conduc ma uit in buzunarul din spatele scaunului pasagerului din fata.

No offence intentened, "dar nu m-am putut abtine".

La motoare ar fi multe de spus. Multi si-ar fi dorit poate motoare mai mari, cu mai multi cai, altii unele mai mici si mai economice.
R18-ul ce-l am pe sedan mi se pare foarte reusit. Cu toate astea, in afara orasului simt nevoia de mai mult cuplu si, implicit, de mai multi cai putere. Dar cum merg asa de rar in afara (poate ca 10% din km parcursi intrun an), un motor de 200 cp nu-si are rostul intrun oras ca Bucurestiul. Eh, daca tot ar fi sa am unul, cred ca as gasi ce sa fac cu el .

Dar, spune tu sincer, un motor de 1.8, cu 160 CP si un consum cu 5-10% mai mic decat actualul tau motor, nu ti-ar fi placut? Bineinteles, cu aceeasi fiabilitate ca si actualul... Doar ziceam si eu...

[strumfuadi Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close strumfuadi]

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Geniala! Honda, just dreams...

[stefan_zzz Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close stefan_zzz]

Salutare,

Imi permit sa imi dau si eu cu parerea despre noul Civic.
Dupa aceste prime poze apărute nu pot sa spun ca legat de design exterior&interior ar fi o involutie fata de modelul actual. Mie unul pot sa spun ca la prima vedere imi place, dar imi păstrez un verdict definitiv pt momentul cand il vom putea admira pe viu. De multe ori, parerea mea, s-a dovedit ca sunt destule diferente intre realitate si poze de prezentare.Spre ex dupa mine calitatea materialelor folosite si a asamblajului poate fi verificate doar pe viu.
Acum referitor la oferta de motorizari din pacate ramane la fel de redusă ca si pana acum cu dezavantajele aduse in principal de cilindreea modelului diesel. Motorul de 1.8 si-a dovedit as zice atat fiabilitatea cat si îndeplinirea necesitatilor unui utilizator mediu as zice.
Ce nu inteleg eu e de ce s-au îndreptat catre piața europeană cu jumatate de pas, doar a designului oarecum, si nu si din prisma unei game de motorizari mai bogata.

Eu unul totusi sunt de părere ca pe piața europeană va avea un succes mai mare ca actualul model, si in definitiv asta cred ca e targetul oricărui nou model, sa depaseasca la nivel de vânzări pe cel precedent!


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[sebip Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close sebip]

O intrebare? Stiu ca nu conteaza, dar asa optic, de ce Honda nu pune capac la motor? Ridici capota....si toate matele is la vedere!

[BogdanHCT Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close BogdanHCT]

Poza aia de la ce model este. Garantat nu e prea nou. La a mea nu se vede absolut nimic...
Nici la Golf nu vad vreun capac, tot cu matele la vedere...:P
http://www.boost4fun.de/upload/11914...ro%20Motor.gif

[RoSonic Member Find all posts View Profile Close RoSonic]

si comunicatul de presa:

THE NEW HONDA CIVIC

Honda announces the new Civic at the IAA Frankfurt Motor Show. Developed specifically for the European market, the Civic will be offered exclusively as a five-door hatchback and will compete in the C-segment. It will reach European showrooms in early 2012.

Introduction
The Civic team led by Mitsuru Kariya, the 'Large Project Leader' (LPL), were given the task to create and develop the new Civic. With the current Civic being known for its unique exterior styling and interior practicality within the C segment in Europe, Mitsuru Kariya and his team were keen to further understand the needs and desires of the European customers. The current Civic became the benchmark focus for their research to create a car that was even better.

"... when evaluating the requirements of our customers, we recognised that the European customer desires are demanding and unique in many aspects. We have focussed our development on fulfilling these expectations and through this process we have taken our development standards even further to a new level." (Mitsuru Kariya, LPL)

With the current increase of fuel prices across Europe and the environmental targets set to achieve low emissions, it was concluded from the European customer survey that the current Civic customer not only considers modern styling and performance to be important but also advanced technologies to create a Civic that was even more cost efficient to run and eco-friendly.

The development period for the new Civic spanned over four years. Nearly all of components are new to the Civic or have been further developed with areas of focus on the suspension set-up to improve the ride and handling, the interior materials to improve the overall interior quality, the new design styling and aerodynamics for a refreshed image and improved efficiency, and the engines for improved performance and reduced CO2 emissions.

Overall the new Civic builds on the core strengths of its predecessor and takes them to an appreciably higher level. It also is one of the sector's best in performance against low CO2 emissions – the diesel model produces just 110 g/km with 150 PS and 350 Nm of torque.

Background and Research
The current Civic originally launched in 2006 saw a change in the type of layout approach with the development of a unique platform based on a "centre tank" layout designed to offer practical benefits such as large cabin space meeting the needs of Europe's "C" category customers. The Civic was designed and developed for the European market receiving positive feedback in areas such as design and versatility/practicality which have helped define the current Civic as having 'road presence' with its 'futuristic looks;' and having a 'multi-purpose' function with the large boot space and multiple seat arrangements offered by the 'magic seats'.

As research commenced, the development team for the new Civic considered these key milestones achieved with the current Civic and opted to maintain and even look to enhance the current Civic model qualities. The team wanted to create a new emotional design with the ability to surprise and provide the unexpected in terms of roominess and other practical features whilst also improving the visibility and widening the field of vision to enhance the overall ownership experience.

The current Civic had already achieved superior interior space with an unbeatable boot capacity among its competitors. Focus now was on maintaining this class leading interior space whilst improving the overall packaging and space efficiency in the attempt to reduce overall dimensions. This would lead to a new exterior design, improved aerodynamic performance, reducing weight that play a role in raising the car's overall performance envelope.

Focused research was conducted to determine the latest and most important requirements for the European market. European and Japanese designers and engineers worked together closely throughout the development process. Testing was carried out first in Japan and then repeatedly in Europe to ensure suitability for the world's most demanding C-segment customers.

"the car had to be safe and easy to handle, affordable and so on ... premium in terms of having a good balance of affordable performance." (Mitsuru Kariya, LPL)

The Civic development team turned to drivers, dealers and the media to evaluate the existing Civic and define the essential 'must keep' features and qualities, as well as the priorities for the new model. Drivers appreciated the distinct styling and form of the car, with its futuristic looks and practicality. However their feedback suggested that the car's rear design could be more sophisticated and that rear view could be improved. Inside the Civic the modern and user-friendly cockpit design was appreciated, as were the spacious cabin and versatile 'magic seats', but users demanded an improvement in the quality of the materials used. Drivers were impressed with the driving experience, but noted that suspension noise could be reduced and ride comfort increased.

Research revealed that the typical Civic driver is attracted to unique, fresh design with sporty performance and advanced technologies. The environment was defined as a high priority, with customers demanding high fuel economy and low emissions.

Concept and development
Initial ideas for the new Civic explored the realm of the car having a 'Lean Energetic' design. 'Lean' was to emphasize the environmental-conscious world existing today, and 'Energetic' to express Honda's vitality. This design direction translated into a 'Clean-Dynamic' design concept.

The design team often referred back to their sources of inspiration to help define 'Clean- Dynamic', a 'blended body' airplane in which fuselage and wings blend into a single body for superior aerodynamic performance, quietness and habitability. Other inspiration was swimwear and track outfits worn by the athletes which provide low resistance.

Initial sketches focused on elegantly flowing designs taken from the 'blended body' airplane (a concept model designed by engineers at the University of Cambridge) and low resistance swimwear with no obvious borderlines between surfaces with bumper and fender lines blending seamlessly into the body.

This concept was a clear break in a new direction, rather than relying on sheer strength and engine power to convey a sporty image, a 'blended body' with reduced resistance would demonstrate a smarter image for the new Civic.

The team returned to these sources over and over again during the design process, using them as a touchstone when they needed to reaffirm their direction.

Drive trains
The new Civic will be offered with three engine options: a 1.4 l petrol unit, a 1.8 l petrol unit and a 2.2 l diesel unit. All the engines are combined with a 6-speed manual gearbox, ECO Assist, advanced fueling control technology and Idle Stop. They are also equipped with Hill Start Assist. The 1.8 l engine can be paired with a specially designed 5-speed automatic transmission.

The chief goal in the engine and transmission development was to maintain the high performance driving experience whilst improving the overall efficiency of the engine resulting in lower running costs.

[octi_b Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close octi_b]

Si 230CP, si aspirat, si euro 5...astea-s vise. Poate din motor de 3l.

Referitor la schimbator, din punct de vedere design, si un amarat de bat cu maciulie in varf poate diferi prin detalii de altul. Delphi, Maruta, poate, avand sedan ati uitat cum este schimbatorul la actualul 5D. Eee?

Si da, detalii precum pedalierul, volanul (pe care eu, la generatia actuala, il ador asa mic, profilat si bombat cum este), schimbatorul si altele au fost vazute cu ochi foarte buni in 2005. Acum sa nu cautam circumstante atenuante cu orice pret.

De consola centrala si de interior in general, inteleg revolta multora. Daca au vrut atata sa-l europenizeze, foarte bine, n-aveau de cat, au studiat calitatea plasticelor, antifonarea, zgomotul articulatiilor etc le-au optimizat pentru drmurile europene, chipurile, dar cu designul ce-au avut? Se plangea cineva de designul futuristic, a ales cineva Golf in loc, doar ca bordul arata asa? Nu, dimpotriva, altele erau problemele si Honda zice ca le-a remediat (ma rog, o parte). Dar de ce a cumintit formele domnul Mitsuru Kariya?

Referitor la motorizare, trebuie sa vedem si cu ce masa vine noul Civic. Tare mi-e ca, fiind mai antifonat si umblat la suspensii si articulatii, va fi mai greu si va sta mai prost ca si dinamica (doar daca nu au umblat pe la curba de cuplu). Desi Cx-ul mai mic, il poate ajuta sa treaca de bariera de 200km/h.

Si da, preturile vor avea un cuvant greu de spus. Dar cred ca, asa cum ne-a obisnuit, Honda o sa-si vanda scump pielea. Mi-a placut gluma chipson-ului (daca aveai sedan, ti-l luam eu )

Si, in fine, neexistand planificat vreun model sedan, o sa incerc si eu sa trag cat mai mult de masinuta mea, o bandajam , o peticim de o fi nevoie dar n-o schimbam, ca nu avem ce sa luam in loc.

[gabrielb Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close gabrielb]

Daca nu va place versiunea 5 usi uite 3 usi si va fac si un break suparat daca doriti!



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[strumfuadi Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close strumfuadi]

Interesant ca a aparut si la Honda notiunea de Engine Start - STOP si au renuntat la caterinca de succesiune "bagi cheia, rotesti, apesi pe buton" pentru pornire. 8 ani in urma amaratului de Megane.. Vad ca au pus si Idle stop pe toate motorizarile, oare au ranforsat starterele?

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@strumfuadi: tocmai caterinca asta cu pusul contactului din cheie si demarorul la buton mi se pare deosebita.

Mi se umfla inima in mine cand urca un neinitiat in masina si trebuie sa-i explic eu cum se porneste.

Pornire/oprire pe buton + cartela am din 2003 de la Laguna care e acum la tata si e problematica treaba:
- a) la multe masini (Renault) se defecteaza butonul -> nu mai pornesti masina
- b) se defecteaza card reader-ul
- c) se duce repede bateria de la card reader
- d) daca ramane cardul intr-o camasa e risc sa-l speli la masina (cum a patit tata) iar un card nou la dealer e cateva sute de Euro
- e) mai demult se putea scrie un card blank luat de pe ebay; azi trebuie sa-l iei de la Renault ca la service nu il mai pot rescrie
- f) se arde ledul la buton intro veselie si cand sa-l schimbi aflii de fapt ca e bec, nu led!

s.a.m.d.

Pe scurt, nu tot ce pare gadget e bun la o masina...