Stiri din tabara Honda Racing F1 Team

[razvan p. Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close razvan p.]

este clar o abordare!buna sau nu dupa caz!in cazul tau a fost buna!acum,na....trebuie sa mai lucrez cred ca la anumite idei ale mele!nu prea sunt pregatit sa vad o HONDA "preluata"!!!
a,si sunt absolut convins ca politica care a adopatat-o acum nu este una buna!sincer

[bgdsta Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close bgdsta]

Eu sincer nu cred ca Fukuy are puterea de a lua singur toate deciziile in compania asta. Compar cu o primarie din Romania, unde primarul nu are toata puterea. El propune dar daca consiliul nu aproba degeaba. Acum poate ma insel ca nu cunosc exact situatia conducerii de la Honda dar oricum, nu cred ca singurul vinovat e Fukuy.

[KMR Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close KMR]

Si nu stiu daca "vinovat" este cuvantul corect. Cine o fi "vinovat" la Subaru ca s-au retras din WRC ?

[Delphi Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Delphi]

In Wiki spune ca: "A motorsports fan, he [Fukui] joined Honda for its participation in the Formula One races. (Source: Reuters)".

Nu stiu ce sa spun, nici mie nu mi se pare ca Honda merge pe drumul corect, din vina cui n-as putea spune. Oricum, decizia de a iesi din F1 a fost corecta dupa mine. Am criticat doar neputinta lor de a face ceva in F1, in afara de focuri de artificii din masini, si am considerat ca asta se leaga cu multe alte lucruri care scartaiau prin alte parti.

LE: KMR, in mod normal cand o firma nu merge bine, de vina este managementul. Unii gasesc scuze (preturile la materii prime, pregatirea angajatilor si lipsa lor de motivare, conditiile pietei, samd), dar asta e vrajeala. Adevarul este unul singur: de vina este managementul.

[Achim Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Achim]

Razvan, esti un pic aprins. Hai sa-ti dau un exemplu dintr-o alta firma, alt domeniu de activitate. Firma in care lucrez eu si-a inceput activitatea cu foto ( optica, aparate foto, etc ). Istorie mare in domeniu, inovatii, inventii, etc. La un moment dat ajunsese ca divizia de foto sa aiba pierderi anuale de peste 400 milioane dolari. Nu din cauza prostului management ci datorita pietii, etc. Dupa o perioada de pierderi au luat hotararea sa inchida divizia de foto si s-o vanda lui Sony. O hotarare foarte grea avand in vedere istoria si spiritul japonez. Dar compania merge mai departe si din cate stiu eu, merge foarte bine. Asa ca ....

LE: KMR, in mod normal cand o firma nu merge bine, de vina este managementul. Unii gasesc scuze (preturile la materii prime, pregatirea angajatilor si lipsa lor de motivare, conditiile pietei, samd), dar asta e vrajeala. Adevarul este unul singur: de vina este managementul.

exact asta vroiam sa zic si eu
si alta treaba... firma a fost vanduta lui Sony si zici ca merge f bine... de ce Sony a putut sa o faca rentabila si managerii ei nu?!

[Delphi Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Delphi]

exact asta vroiam sa zic si eu
si alta treaba... firma a fost vanduta lui Sony si zici ca merge f bine... de ce Sony a putut sa o faca rentabila si managerii ei nu?!

Pentru ca Sony a avut manageri.

Domnul Honda, ca si domnul Sony, au fost niste genii in cea ce au facut si s-ar parea ca in cazul Honda, sarcina de a continua acest business este prea grea pentru umerii firavi ai urmasilor. Asta este: unii poate, altii nu poate.

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Asta cu Sony este o presupunere. In realitate, Minolta era dependent de CCD-uri si baterii. acestea erau cumparate de la Sony care astfel controla pretul aparatelor foto. De fapt si Sony producea aparate foto si Minolta era un concurent. N-are legatura cu managementul ci cu santajul economic

A, si nu stiu daca divizia foto a lui Sony are profit .

[razvan p. Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close razvan p.]

ok.este ultimul post pe aici si intrucat am vazut aseara lansarile oficiale ale TEAM-urilor F1 am sa opresc aici cu orice fel de remarca.negativa si pozitiva!dupa cum am spus si pe alt topic am trecut pe la showroom-ul SUBARU din iasi si acolo atitudinea fata de retragerea din WRC era similara!a fanilor..evident daca mai avem voie sa fim si nu trebuie sa gandim precum tovarasul FUKUY!

raman doar neclintit de la urmatoarele mele convingeri:

1.honda a plecat la modul cel mai dezonorant cu putinta din sportul rege si dupa un esec "sustinut" pe parcursul a cator-va sezoane!
2.sunt aproape convins ca aceasta companie are grave probleme financiare si lucrurile nu sunt atat de roz pe cat incearca sa le faca mult iubitul ei conducator!
3.povestea cu ECO-proiectele costisitoare nu le cred atat timp cat civic-ul hibrid nu este un model similar cu prius iar la clarity iti trebuie prieteni cu pompa de alimentare!!
intre timp cooper a facut 3 flic-flakuri si a facut o masinutza cu autonomie de 278mile full electrica!si altii vin tare din spate!de cati-va ani insa honda nu a scos nici un nou model de motor conventional care sa impresioneze!

voi ramane insa un fan al vechilor modele daca este necesar,imi voi lua una chiar si SH iar istoria se va incheia aici!
probabil ca si peste 20 de ani voi intalni aceiasi mana de oameni si prieteni adevarati care au astzi aceiasi pasiune comuna numita HONDA!

"the future HONDA???"-unkown destination!

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Will VW join Honda as an IRL engine supplier?




For the past few years, the IRL has kept things simple, using just one engine supplier. Toyota, Chevrolet and Nissan (under the Infiniti moniker) bowed out of the engine game to give Honda its exclusivity in 2006. The single powerplant was supposed to make the series more of a driver's competition, and one could argue that the engine limitations did even playing field somewhat. At the same time, however, they also made the series significantly more boring.

Now with the defection of Champ Car and stubborn leadership in F1, IRL is looking to increase its relevance in open wheel racing. IRL's contract with Honda ends after 2010, and rumors indicate that the party most interested in getting a foot in the door for 2011 is the Volkswagen Group. The draw for them is the rumored return to the use of turbochargers, as well as heads-up competition between a variety of cylinder configurations. The Volkswagen group is looking to use the series to market high performance low-displacement forced induction engines that are currently under development. Since Audi gets its racing due at LeMans, perhaps any deal with the IRL will look towards increasing VW's performance stock.

[Achim Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Achim]

greu pt toata lumea

Last Call: Martini Racing back off the grid?



It must be hard for most companies to justify multi-million-dollar sponsorship deals in times like these, but when the chips are down, you'd figure alcohol companies would still be doing just fine, if not better. So it comes as a bit of a surprise that Martini, a name with a rich heritage in motorsport sponsorship, has pulled back out of racing again.

The vermouth label celebrated its fortieth year in motorsports just last year. Martini & Rossi first hit the track plastered on the Porsche 917 at Hockenheim, and ever since their iconic red and blue striped livery has appeared on Porsches, Lancias, Alfas, Lotuses and Fords in sportscar racing, touring cars, rallying, Formula One and speedboats. After several years off the scene, Martini returned in 2006 with a small logo on the nose of the Ferrari 248 F1, but when the new F60 was launched last week, their logo was conspicuously missing, replaced by that of Indian automaker Tata's financial division. Martini's sponsorship deal with Ferrari was only signed for three years, covering 2006, 2007 and 2008, reportedly worth $3 million per season. It is speculated, however, that Martini's trackside advertising may continue in the new season. We certainly hope so, if only for the sight of the famous Martini girls, but we may have to do with simply mixing ourselves a drink and maybe buying some Martini-Porsche gear. In the meantime you can read up on the history of Martini Racing at martiniracing.com.

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Sink or Swim: Toyota could follow Honda out of F1 if the wins don't come

Toyota has a reputation around the Formula One paddock for having the biggest budget with the least results. But that's all going to change, and change drastically, if the team doesn't start winning races, according to some new reports.

Although outgoing Toyota president Katsuaki Watanabe was reported to have rubber-stamped the company's continued participation in F1 following a recent review, his successor and founding family scion, Akio Toyoda, may feel otherwise. Toyoda will be taking the reigns at the company following the first year of decline in its history, and will likely be looking to curb expenditures. In good times, some companies can justify the enormous financial cost of competing in F1 for the positive image it attaches to their company. But that's only if they're out there winning races, or at least coming close. If Toyota can't score its first race win this year, the bean counters might have no choice but to follow fellow Japanese automaker Honda and pull out of the sport altogether. Click below for an updated gallery of the Toyota TF109, and follow the jump for a video.

[tokyodream Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close tokyodream]

Vesti bune, zic eu:

http://formula1.automarket.ro/stiri/...-cu-honda.html

Senna a semnat cu Honda?


Potrivit unor informatii neoficiale, Bruno Senna a semnat un contract cu Honda Racing si va debuta in Formula 1 in 2009 avandu-l drept coechipier pe Jenson Button.
Publicatia online GrandPrix.com sustine ca Bruno Senna, nepotul regretatului Ayrton Senna, a semnat un contract cu Honda Racing pentru sezonul 2009.
Sursa citata mentioneaza ca brazilianul va fi coechipier cu Jenson Button, in timp ce echipa japoneza va concura in acest an cu motoare furnizate de Mercedes.
In ceea ce priveste sursele de finantare, acestea vor veni, potrivit sursei mentionate, chiar de la constructorul Honda, intrucat costurile de a mentine echipa in viata sunt mai mici decat cele generate de inchiderea fabricii si concedierea a 700 de oameni. De asemenea, sursele de finantare vor proveni de la compania petroliera braziliana Petrobras si alti cativa sponsori adusi de Senna.

[razvan p. Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close razvan p.]

daca e asa,de ce toata tigania asta cu retrasul???

[Achim Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Achim]

asta era si nelamurirea mea
daca zic ca s-au retras... astia cu ce echipa au semnat?

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Honda Mercedes F 1 Team !