Honda in F1 sezonul 2006

[dixy2k Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close dixy2k]

si din cauza strategiei crapa masina?

[Delphi Super Moderator Find all posts View Profile Close Delphi]

Da, cred ca are un pic legatura. Cand pleci in cursa, iti faci un plan, ce setari faci la aerodinamica, la suspensii, ce cauciucuri folosesti, cu cata benzina pleci, cate opriri, etc. Daca nu le stabilesti cum trebuie, sau nu le corelezi intre ele, ai surprize si... crapa ...asa cum a fost duminica. E clar ca nu au un coordonator (sau manager) care sa stie sa ia decizii si sa faca echipa sa mearga unitar. Asa, din cum se comporta, pare ca la ei e un haos. Degeaba pui un motor puternic pe o masina care este subviratoare, si nu ai nici o racire cum trebuie, si pui si nu stiu ce garnitura aiurea, si se supra-incalzeste si-ti crapa. BTW, am citit pe net ca ei se plangeau ca nici motorul nu e foarte puternic, ca-i lipsesc vreo cateva zeci de caluti fata de altii Vezi, anul trecut Ferrari au avut si ei un an prost, dar s-au redresat, si chiar daca au avut un inceput mai slabut, acum merg bine.

[dixy2k Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close dixy2k]

toate astea nu au legatura cu experienta?

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Ba da, dar eu nu le gasesc o scuza: au destui ani de experienta ca motoristi la Jordan, apoi la BAR Honda (unde erau si actionari in echipa), pe care au si cumparat-o pana la urma. Deci, aveau niste oameni care lucrasera pe, si la masina aia cativa ani, nu m-au luat pe mine de pe strada :lol: E adevarat ca Toyota, cu bani mai multi si vechime mai mare in F1 (ca echipa) are rezultate mai proaste, dar nu asta e important.

[dixy2k Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close dixy2k]

eu nu le caut scuze. daca pute nu ai ce sa le mai faci.
la alte sporturi de obicei se cauta atleti foarte buni. cei care nu vor sa investeasca bani in a cumpara acei atleti nu pot sa si cistige.

[dixy2k Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close dixy2k]

ceva teste de viteza:


http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/07/...et-for-f1-car/

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E ciudat, ei scot pe pista de sare mai putin decat Montoya pe circuit? Si decat Bugatti pe strada?

In orice caz, in testele de saptamana asta iar sunt foarte buni (locul 1-2). Deci, la cursa viitoare iar n-o sa faca nimic :lol: :lol: Sper sa gresesc

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neoficial, in Mojave, au reusit 415 kmh

November 6 2005
BAR Honda is the fastest Formula One team ever.
Unofficially, while shaking down its Bonneville 400 record-attempt car at Mojave airport in California on Friday 4 November, South Africa's Alan van der Merwe became the first F1 driver to crack the 400kph barrier.

He managed three runs at over 400, the fastest of which was his last: 415kph (257.88mph).

His speed along the tarmac runway was recorded in two ways: by his car's on-board Pitot tube and by a 60-metre radar trap set up by the team.

Actually, there was a third reading. A spectating California Highway Patrolman was delighted when one of van der Merwe's passes sent his radar gun off its 205mph scale, this breaking a colleague's station record of 170mph set by a speeding Porsche driver.

"The car ran perfectly," said Gary Savage, Bonneville 400's tech chief. "The day proved how important all the recce work has been, and how important it was to approach this challenge in a proper professional manner, to show respect, rather than just turn up on the Salt Flats, go for it and hope for the best."

The day, however, was not without problem: a 45-knot side wind, with gusts up to 60 knots.

"There was dust everywhere," said Savage. "We even had tumbleweed blowing across the track. It was like being in a Western film."

Despite these challenging conditions, the car's stabilising rudder was locked in its 'neutral' position throughout.

"The rudder is for the high-slip, low-grip conditions at Bonneville," explained Savage. "This, of course, means that the car was absolutely in F1 spec at Mojave as there was no moveable aerodynamic device on it.

"It was an encouraging day and we are confident that we can achieve this speed - and more- at Bonneville. But we also know that its salt surface is a much more difficult proposition.

"The key now is to be patient and wait for the right conditions."

The teams hopes to return to Bonneville in late May or early June of next year.

This year's record attempt at Bonneville was postponed after storms flooded the Salt Flats.

[dixy2k Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close dixy2k]

E ciudat, ei scot pe pista de sare mai putin decat Montoya pe circuit? Si decat Bugatti pe strada?

In orice caz, in testele de saptamana asta iar sunt foarte buni (locul 1-2). Deci, la cursa viitoare iar n-o sa faca nimic :lol: :lol: Sper sa gresesc

nu e ciudat de loc acolo se testeaza tot ce are legatura cu recorduri de viteza. e o "pista" excelenta.

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Honda a dovedit recent ca masina ei de formula 1 este cea mai rapida din lume. A atins 400 km/h in SUA.
La o cursa de formula 1 iti mai trebuie si piloti exceptionali.
Cat despre motoarele Honda la curse automobilistice, recent la Indi toate cele 33 modele care au participat au fost dotate cu motoare Honda dupa cum arata tabelul de mai jos. Sau poate sunteti voi mai experti decat cei care concureaza la Indi?

Indianapolis 500 Race Report

05/28/2006


Circuit: Indianapolis Motor Speedway (2.5 mile oval) Speedway, Ind.
2005 Winner: Dan Wheldon (Honda) 157.603 mph average speed
Weather: Sunny, hot and humid, 87 degrees F

Indianapolis 500 Results:

Ps. St. Driver Team Engine/Chassis Laps Average Speed/Notes
1. 1. Sam Hornish Jr. Marlboro Team Penske Honda Dallara 200 157.085 mph average
2. 9.
Marco Andretti-R Andretti Green Racing Honda Dallara 200 -0.0635 seconds
3. 13.
Michael Andretti Andretti Green Racing Honda Dallara 200 -1.0087 seconds
4. 3. Dan Wheldon-W Target Chip Ganassi Honda Dallara 200 -1.2692 seconds
5. 5.
Tony Kanaan Andretti Green Racing Honda Dallara 200 -1.4656 seconds
6. 4.
Scott Dixon Target Chip Ganassi Honda Dallara 200 -3.0566 seconds
7. 17.
Dario Franchitti Andretti Green Racing Honda Dallara 200 -5.6249 seconds
8. 10. Danica Patrick Rahal Letterman Racing Honda Panoz 200 -5.7263 seconds
9. 8.
Scott Sharp Delphi Fernandez Racing Honda Dallara 200 -11.1252 seconds
10. 6. Vitor Meira Panther Racing Honda Dallara 200 -17.9554 seconds
11. 12. Ed Carpenter Vision Racing Honda Dallara 199 Running
12. 25. Buddy Lazier-W Dreyer & Reinbold Racing Honda Dallara 199 Running
13. 19. Eddie Cheever-W Cheever Racing Honda Dallara 198 Running
14. 18. Max Papis Cheever Racing Honda Dallara 197 Running
15. 7. Kosuke Matsuura Super Aguri Fernandez Honda Dallara 195 Running
16. 28. Roger Yasukawa
Playa del Racing Honda Panoz 194 Running
17. 24. Jaques Lazier Playa del Racing
Honda Panoz 193 Running
18. 29. Airton Dare Sam Schmidt Motorsports Honda Panoz 193 Running
19. 32. P.J. Jones
Team Leader Racing Honda Panoz 189 Running
20. 16. Bryan Herta
Andretti Green Racing Honda Dallara 188 Running
21. 21. Felipe Giaffone A.J. Foyt Racing Honda Dallara
177 Did not finish - contact
22. 15. Townsend Bell-R
Vision Racing Honda Dallara 161 Did not finish - suspension
23. 26. Jeff Simmons Rahal Letterman Racing Honda Panoz 152 Did not finish - contact
24. 27. Al Unser Jr.-W Dreyer & Reinbold Racing Honda Dallara 145 Did not finish - contact
25. 2. Helio Castroneves-W Marlboro Team Penske Honda Dallara 109 Did not finish - contact
26. 14. Buddy Rice-W Rahal Letterman Racing Honda Panoz 108 Did not finish - contact
27. 11. Tomas Scheckter Vision Racing Honda Dallara 65 Did not finish - contact
28. 31. Arie Luyendyk Jr.-R Luyendyk Racing Honda Panoz 54 Did not finish - handling
29. 30. Stephan Gregoire Team Leader Racing Honda Panoz 49 Did not finish - handling
30. 23. Larry Foyt A.J. Foyt Racing Honda Panoz 43 Did not finish - handling
31. 33. Thiago Medeiros-R PDM Racing Honda Panoz 24 Did not finish - electrical
32. 22. Jeff Bucknum Hemelgarn Racing Honda Dallara 1 Did not finish - contact
33. 20. P.J. Chesson-R Hemelgarn Racing Honda Dallara 1 Did not finish - contact

Hondas Flawless and Hornish Wins A Thrilling Indy 500

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Honda a dovedit recent ca masina ei de formula 1 este cea mai rapida din lume. A atins 400 km/h in SUA.
La o cursa de formula 1 iti mai trebuie si piloti exceptionali.
Cat despre motoarele Honda la curse automobilistice, recent la Indi toate cele 33 modele care au participat au fost dotate cu motoare Honda dupa cum arata tabelul de mai jos. Sau poate sunteti voi mai experti decat cei care concureaza la Indi?

Nu, dar e un lucru pe care eu nu-l pot pricepe cum poate Honda sa faca motoare atat de bune in state, dar nu reuseste sa faca mare lucru in F1. Pilotii sunt si ei parte a problemei, dar ce vina poti sa-i gasesti pilotului daca ii ia foc motorul? Cativa ani in urma, inainte sa vina Montoya in F1, a iesit campion in USA vreo doi ani la rand - pe motoare Honda - si nu a mai castigat atunci cand echipa a trecut pe motoare Toyota. Deci, nu intotdeauna pilotul e totul. De fapt, e un complex de factori care fac ca o echipa sa castige... sau nu.

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un loc 4 in Germania... nu-i de aruncat, dar nici motiv de sarit in sus de bucurie... "Jenson Button puts Honda back into the hunt".

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Da, locul 4 merge... dupa atatea curse fara puncte. Pacat insa ca i-a luat foc motorul lui Barrichello, parea evident mai rapid decat Alonso, si cred ca ar fi putut lua si el 2-3 puncte. Oricum, eu cred ca asa o sa se termine campionatul anul asta, cu Honda pe locul 4, si Jenson poate pe 6.
Cred ca tot nu au rezolvat foarte bine treaba cu cauciucurile, s-a vazut clar ca atunci cand a iesit Raikkonen ultima data de la boxe, Button n-a putut sa faca nimic. Ei, poate la anul

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Am crezut ca si turbez cand am aflat ca "albiciosul" l-a facut pe Jenson in ultimele tururi.... :twisted: :roll: :twisted: :x
Am parasit tribuna cu gandul ca ma duc la podium sa-l trag in chip pe JB, cand colo.........
Oricum dupa atata timp direct un loc 4 e foarte bine. Dupa cursa Barrichello (in bermude si cu fiu-sau dupa el) a stat multa vreme de vorba cu Nakamoto aratandu-i si explicandu-i tot felul de chestii la masina.
Daca gumele astea de 2bani ar fi fost mai bune, ar fi ramas in fata lui KR......
O sa pun si niste poze in cursul zilei.

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OOh, ai fost chiar la locul faptei? De-aia a iesit JB pe 4? A simtit "The Power of Honda" plutind in aer :lol: ? Intr-adevar s-a vazut clar ca gumele lui Button nu-l ajuta: pur si simplu n-a avut ce face...

Ati, din pacate n-ai avut dreptate cu miki alexandrescu: a cloncanit din nou duminica asta ; sau chiar a avut efect telefonul lui Schumi :lol: